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All nations Military forces are made up of regular people, the good the bad and sometimes the very ugly and evil, including sadistic cowardly murderers and the most evil child abusers.
This reality includes the British military, who have many evil criminals within and former members. Jails are full of these supposed unquestionable heroes all.

The military likely have a higher percentage of evil than civilians, as another reality is the British Crown military have long targeted the poorest class and vulnerable in society. I do not mean the 2018 outing of them recently targeting exam failures at vulnerable times!

I mean that long tradition of recruiting the low intellect and immature young people from broken homes and juvenile criminals, who were/are typical of the sort that ended up in some foreign land ordering other people about at the point of a gun on service of a supposed queen!!
Child abuse in a form.

Half of British Army recruits have the skills of children leaving primary school. Having the mental capacity of a primary school child, just 11 years of age
nearly 1 in 10 were at the lower standard expected of seven and eight-year-olds.


Sorry British legion and your BS propaganda that has people brainwashed into the perverse notion that the military are all brave upstanding heroes.

They are most certainly not! While many if not most are similar to any other decent ordinary person, often in the military because they can't get any other job, they are not remotely involved in anything like genuine unselfish unpaid heroic acts, and if you doubt this and still believe they are all so great, the following evidence shows that you were selectively brainwashed by the extreme british nationalist propaganda bullshit

read some of the extremes cowardly perverse crimes of some of the many supposed brave heroes all- (many more can be found on google)


Just recent examples of the low life evil trash in among the supposed unquestionable Heroes one and all!

British ex-army Pervert officer sexually assaulted ‘vulnerable’ Perthshire teen after ‘creeping into her room’ and abusing her
Lieutenant-Colonel Tom Gallagher, 66, attacked the girl, 15, while his wife was away from home and was caged for three years
news/3109772/army-officer-tom-gallagher-sex-abuse-teenager-perthshire/


Former British army scots guard soldier brutally murdered his ex stabbing her 42 times and left teenage boy disabled after hammer attack is caged for life

Gary Brown, 55, stabbed Alyson Watt 42 times and left a 16-year-old boy profoundly disabled in the violent attack.

dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-soldier-who-stabbed-ex-12863965


British Army chef is caught trying to meet '11 year-old girl' for sex

Daily Mail
Army chef is caught trying to meet '11 year-old girl' for sex. Disgraced army chef Connor Lane was confronted by paedophile vigilantes as he attempted to meet a young school girl for sex.



Almost 90 paedophile cases in British Armed Forces in the last three and a half years

Iranian Embassy SAS hero was 'being investigated ...
Sep 19, 2011 - SAS man McAleese (pictured) became a national hero in 1980 after blasting open a window so his elite unit could storm the Iranian Embassy building in West London. ... They must have had pretty strong grounds to believe that he was a paedophile if they were prepared to seek international extradition.
Iranian Embassy SAS hero John McAleese was 'being investigated ...
dailymail.co.uk/.../Iranian-Embassy-SAS-hero-John-McAleese-investigated-alle...
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A Freedom of Information request shows that personnel are being arrested at the rate of almost one every two weeks.

MoD admits over 350 sexual abuse complaints have been made by ...
More than 350 complaints of sexual abuse perpetrated against members of Britain's cadet forces have been made in the past five years, the Ministry of ... Waters stayed with the sea cadets for another two decades until, in 2004, he was removed pending a criminal investigation into child abuse he was ...
theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/04/mod-admits-over-350-sexual-abuse-complaints-have-been-made-by-cadets
Sexual abuse of cadets 'was covered up by officials who urged victims not to tell police'
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/04/sexual-abuse-cadets-covered-officials-urged-victims-not-tell/

Soldier jailed for 27 years after paying paedophile £50 to film ...
Mirror.co.uk-6 Feb 2017
Social Networking · Soldiers · Armed forces · Court case · Crown court · Life sentence · Crime · Rape · British Army · Child abuse.

Soldier caught out in grooming sting by 'paedophile hunter'
BBC News-17 May 2017
A soldier has admitted grooming a child after sending explicit messages over the internet from his Army barracks. Winchester Crown Court heard 25-year-old Craftsman Sam Dallow from Birmingham thought he was contacting a 14-year-old


Trial of accused Faslane royal marine corporals forcing marines to commit sex act while watching gay porn

The figures show that 47 soldiers, sailors or airmen have been referred to prosecutors since the start of 2011 for allegedly downloading child pornography from the internet, with 21 convicted so far.

These are very worrying figures

Senior MoD source, speaking to the Daily Express

In the same period 39 have been arrested for child sex offences including rape or sexual assault. Seven have been convicted.

And due to what the Ministry of Defence says are �exceptional circumstances�, about 20 personnel have been allowed to remain in the Army while on the Sex Offenders� Register.

One of the greatest areas of concern is the downloading of child pornography.

A senior MoD source said: �These are very worrying figures.�

Peter McKelvie, a former child protection manager, claimed this week that senior members of the Armed Forces, peers, judges and politicians were part of a powerful elite who abused children for decades.

Are people suddenly and instantly heroic, transformed brave and morally superior just because of a specific set of clothes?

NO!
But this perverse concept they are! is exactly what the British legion poppy symbolism suggests!

If you buy a poppy, you have no choice on who gets your money, the British nationalist legion decides for you.
If you buy a poppy, you are stating that you believe that salaried employees of the British state are all worthy heroes. Even though each and every one is salaried and has a pension and sickness schemes, somehow you feel they are worthy of some more money, your money to provide extra support because they are all so brave.

If so, can you explain for example, how this recent news on a British army soldier (one of the 'supposed heroes' all) a very evil and sick individual fits into the brainwashing scheme, of imagery that promote British superior moral myths.

British army Household cavalry soldier Simon Wyn-Davies.
Wyn-Davies was part of a paedophile ring that carried out a string of horrific sex crimes against young children
The British army Soldier claimed he raped children and hoarded child pornography to block out the trauma of his war-time experiences in Afghanistan

Almost 90 paedophile cases in British Armed Forces in the last three and a half years
NEARLY 90 serving members of the Armed Forces have been arrested or charged with child sex offences in three and a half years, the Daily Express can reveal.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218366/Soldier-helped-organise-paedophile-parties-block-trauma-serving-Afghanistan-jailed-indefinitely.html#ixzz2io2c49wv

or this filth
Secret life of depraved Walsall SAS hero Ian Tuckley (note how the paper still refers to this perverse evil british pedophile as a hero!!!!)

SAS soldier he was praised in dispatches for his bravery on the frontline in war zones including Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo.

But all the time �hero� Ian Tuckley was secretly raping and abusing three young children while back on leave in the Midlands.
birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/secret-life-of-depraved-walsall-sas-226166

Or this evil filth.
Britain�s oldest prisoner, at 101, is Ralph Clarke from Birmingham, an ex-RAF serviceman and lorry driver sentenced in December last year to a 13-year term for child sex attacks � the last of which he committed aged 68.


Or this evil filth
Full story of how single phone call led police to ex Royal Navy sailor unmasked as predatory paedophile It can become a cliche for detectives, when they encounter a crime so appalling that it is described as �the worst case I have ever seen� � but the offences of a former Royal Navy Chief Petty Officer truly beggar belief.

Countless, certainly thousands of former and serving employees of the British military have been convicted of serious crimes in courts. Many more will never see any justice even for their cowardly crimes of murder.

Ex-soldier snared by paedophile hunters | Daily Mail Online
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4577792/Ex-soldier-snared-paedophile-hunters.html

Jun 6, 2017 - Former soldier who thought he was meeting a 13-year-old girl for sex tried to run away after finding out he had been snared by paedophile ...

Soldier jailed for 27 years after paying paedophile �50 to film himself ...
mirror.co.uk � News � UK News
Feb 6, 2017 - Soldier jailed for 27 years after paying paedophile �50 to film himself ... He said Thompson was an educated man of previous good character ...
Paedophile soldier jailed after admitting string of sex attacks on nine ...
mirror.co.uk � News � UK News

Mar 16, 2016 - Bombardier Riaan Hardy, 35, was only caught last year when the youngster's mother asked her why she was self-harming.
​Ex-soldier paedophile locked up after abusing boy, 7 | Stoke Sentinel
stokesentinel.co.uk/8203-ex-soldier-paedophile-locked-abusing.../story.html

Sep 9, 2015 - PAEDOPHILE pensioner David Bailey has been jailed for four years for sexually abusing a young boy. The ex-soldier and former pottery ...

Paedophile former soldier Brian Newman, of Shoebury, 'vows revenge ...
echo-news.co.uk/.../15254554.Paedophile_former_soldier__vows_revenge__after...
Apr 29, 2017 - A FORMER soldier who sexually abused two vulnerable young girls has ... Paedophile
Brian Newman, 83, was jailed at Basildon Crown Court ...
Soldier caught out in grooming sting by 'paedophile hunter' - BBC News
bbc.com/news/uk-england-39948768

May 17, 2017 - A soldier has admitted grooming a child after sending explicit messages over the internet from his Army barracks. Winchester Crown Court ...
Nearly 90 paedophile cases in British Armed Forces in the last three ...
express.co.uk � News � UK

Jul 10, 2014 - Child Sex, Child Abuse, Armed Forces, Military, Soldier, Britain, British ... Peter McKelvie, a former child protection manager, claimed this week ...
Former soldier caught with sick pictures of babies being sexually ...
liverpoolecho.co.uk � News � Liverpool News � Crime

Dec 10, 2015 - A paedophile ex-soldier was caught with sick pictures of babies being sexually abused as well as live ammunition in his Liverpool city centre ...
Paedophile former soldier jailed for sexually assaulting a three-year ...
solihullobserver.co.uk/.../paedophile-former-soldier-jailed-for-sexually-assaulti...

Jun 27, 2017 - A FORMER soldier who sexually abused a three-year-old girl at her Solihull home and had a 'disturbing' list of website names has been ...
Soldier Who Beat Afghan 'Paedophile' Keeps Job - Sky News
news.sky.com/story/soldier-who-beat-afghan-paedophile-keeps-job-10262721

Almost 90 paedophile cases in British Armed Forces in the last three and a half years
NEARLY 90 serving members of the Armed Forces have been arrested or charged with child sex offences in three and a half years, the Daily Express can reveal


But all these low life filth and like evil thousands in jails and at large are all automatically brave heroes in the minds of the extreme plastic british nationalists in the North of Ireland, for no other reason than because these evil once wore a British uniform, all heroes automatically promoted under the perverse slogan of help for heroes british legions Poppy campaign!

The royal British legion poppy appeal website states
Irish Community ImagesAll money raised will go towards providing much needed support for the Armed Forces and their families, so we're urging everyone to get involved and raise as much as they can for the 2012 Poppy Appeal.Irish Community Images

On the legions own official website they state that virtually all of the survivors of WW1 are now deceased.

So in stark contradiction to that simplistic ignorant myth recently spread by a minority in Ireland, in perverse attempt to make the poppy acceptable, Irish. you will not be supporting any Irish ww1 soldiers or their families.

You might well be supporting a low life ignorant or worse.
The british military is not known for their intellect or especially pleasant manners.
Thick violent ignorant pigs is the lasting impression left on most areas of the world these all too often otherwise unemployable evil thugs and idiots were sent by abusing politicians for self interest.


The legion also state that the poppy should be worn to support all the British Military Service Personal who served in all conflicts since 1945. The wearing of the Poppy is to honour all current and former British Soldiers, Sailors and Air Men in all conflicts.

Not the countless innocent victims of British wars, just the British salaried employees of the state who did their killing for pay.
You are instead supporting all those who tortured civilians in Ireland, in Malaysia, Kenya, Korea, and where ever the British military have gone, because they are not all heroic, or even remotely moral.

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Note the comment by a soldier watching and before the children are even in the compound. "Your going to get it"
This clearly shows that British soldiers do this treatment to civilians even children!
Heroes?

Once again, that all heroes concept the legion want people to accept without question.
The poppy should be worn to support all the British Military Service Personal who served in all conflicts since 1945. The wearing of the Poppy is to honour all current and former British Soldiers, Sailors and Air Men in all conflicts.

This specific is stressed again and again by the British Legion and repeated by British Politicians and commentators. To further emphasize this point the Legion dedicates the wearing of the poppy each year to serving soldiers. This year it is dedicated to those in Afghanistan and last year it was dedicated to �our heroes in Basra� .

This means that wearing the Poppy in Ireland honors the British Soldiers who committed so many crimes and atrocities in Ireland.

You can not conveniently isolate the wearing of the Poppy in Ireland to WW1 and WW2. So called just wars, even if WW1 was a obscenity, essentially a fight between related European so called royal families.

You can not simply ignore the fact that you are honoring the Black and Tans, the mass Murderers of Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy massacre, the pitchfork murderers, the British army child killers in Ireland, the british army torturers of thousands of Kenyans, executioners of 1916 and every current and former criminal in the British forces, and there are many.

Giving money to buy a British poppy has literally nothing to do with either world war or any Irish war dead of any world war.

It is though most definitely all about the romanticization of the British military industry, and the billions of � made by HM revenues and British business from wars.

Back to the concept of Heroes all!

By default could the buyers of British Poppy's, actually be helping to pay for the welfare of a British army Sex offender or other British army criminal?

This point in Terniog's post
"Google - British army Sex criminals"

I did and got these shocking search returns.

Various internet sources.
PressTV - Report: UK soldiers rape Afghan kids
presstv.ir - Asia-Pacific � Afghanistan
18 Jan 2012 � Two British soldiers have been accused of raping two children in Afghanistan.
British soldier, 25, jailed for raping British university student, 22, in ...

32 sex offenders in armed services | Metro.co.uk
metro.co.uk/news/609736-32-sex-offenders-in-armed-services
The Ministry of Defence has confirmed that there are 32 registered sex offenders serving in the armed forces.


Are these really Heroes? members of a exceptional and special organization, one that should not be even queried as to their hero status?

Suicide Army girl 'in rape torment' - The Sun
thesun.co.uk/.../Suicide-soldier-Anne-Marie-Ellement-never-re...
19 Mar 2012 � A SOLDIER who hanged herself in her barracks had never recovered from being raped by two Army colleagues, her family said last night.

dailymail.co.uk/.../British-soldier-25-jailed-raping-British-unive...
9 Mar 2012 � A British soldier has been jailed for four years in Cyprus for raping a British ... Cyprus is home to two sprawling sovereign military British bases.
BBC News - Cpl Anne-Marie Ellement 'hanged herself after bullying ...
Buy British Poppy for British heroes Promote war ignorance

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-17633733
5 Apr 2012 � She alleged she was raped by two men but military prosecutors did not ... Fulham & Hammersmith Chronicle World & UK News: Army probes ...
British army soldier who raped woman seven times in several hours ...

mirror.co.uk/news/uk.../british-army-soldier-who-raped-14773...
16 Aug 2011 � The British army sapper who raped a woman seven times in an ordeal lasting several hours was yesterday jailed for 10 years and dismissed ...
British troops gang raped Masai women
Buy British Poppy for British heroes Promote war ignorance
raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/.../1099
British troops gang raped Masai women. Posted By: RHN Date: 20, October 02, at 1:02 a.m.. Victims claim that shame - and blond Kenyans - are the legacy of ...
Buy a British Poppy help pay welfare of army Sex offenders

State Under Fire Over British Soldiers' Rape Victims
AllAfrica.com? - 23 hours ago
A human rights organisation has accused the government of indifference towards rape victims of the British army soldiers. Executive director of ...
Buy British Poppy for British heroes Promote war ignorance

British soldiers in Afghanistan have been raped two children aged ...
youtube.com/watch?v=3o8JEERaGuY19 Jan 2012 - 47 min - Uploaded by HaresAfg
British soldiers in Afghanistan have been raped two children aged ten. HaresAfg. Subscribe Subscribed ...

Rape during the occupation of Japan - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Japan
Jump to Reported rapes by British Commonwealth Occupation Force?: Australian, British, Indian and New Zealand troops in Japan as part of the .
Rape in the military: exposing the shocking truth | Life and style | The ...

guardian.co.uk � Life & style � Women
5 days ago � The groundbreaking film The Invisible War exposes the shocking level of sexual abuse against women in the US military. Its concerns about ...

British soldiers accused in Kenyan murder case | World news | The ...
guardian.co.uk � News � World news � Kenya
14 Aug 2012 � British soldiers have been accused of being involved in the murder of a Kenyan prostitute ... British military inquiry rejects Kenya rape claims ...



These results only a token representation of the evil are really sickening.

The royal British legion poppy appeal website states

All money raised will go towards providing much needed support for the Armed Forces and their families, so we're urging everyone to get involved and raise as much as they can for the 2012 Poppy Appeal.

So giving money to buy a British poppy has literally nothing to do with either world war anyway.
You are giving your money to look after a nations military who have waged commercial wars in Iraq and elsewhere.
You might be paying for the welfare of a British soldier who murdered and tortured innocent people, women and children in Kenya or Northern Ireland.

You could be helping to Pay the welfare of a sex offender in their ranks.

British soldier jailed for raping university student, 22, in party resort of Ayia Napa
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2112743/British-soldier-25-jailed-raping-British-university-student-22-party-resort-Ayia-Napa.html

Soldier rapist snared by public for a crime that shocked the community
couchtripper.com/rapedbysoldiers/?tag=british-soldiers


If Tony Blair or David Cameron claim they need to send poor youngsters off to war (on behalf of big business), surely the very least they can do is provide for the same poor young fools basic needs, when or if they come home.
How low are the British government? To rely upon the goodwill and naive national sentiment and upon sentimental shameless propaganda to look after the welfare of their supposed heroes. The welfare of supposed brave heroes that David Cameron and other politicians care so much for (or pretend to ), at least for a few minutes one day a year.


Queens Knight Sir Jimmy Saville Honory Royal Marine
Irish Community Images

Like those today who just buy a poppy, imagine it all a good deed, very few people used to question this marines supposed hero status.

Irish Community Images
Ireland unfortunately knows the supposed bravery but real thuggery and bully boy cowardice of members of the british army, not least Certain Scots regiments, royal marines and parachute regiments.
Such as the convicted murderer Lee Clegg who (according to the trial Judge), concocted a pack of lies with his lying army accomplices in attempt to cover up their cowardly murder of two Irish teenagers.

Mr Justice Kerr's lambasted Lee Clegg, labelling his defence a farrago of deceit and lies. He rejected Clegg's evidence about how he came to fire four shots at a Vauxhall Astra in west Belfast just before midnight on September 30, 1990.
But a major campaign for his exoneration by the right-wing British press continued until the second conviction was quashed a year later on a technicality of uncertainty as to who fired the bullet that actually murdered a teenage girl.
Clegg was welcomed back into the army, and promoted. He now works as a physicial training instructor at Catterick, in Yorkshire.
Cleggs brave heroic regiment thought murder of teenagers was funny.
Their mock up of the bullet riddled car shortly after their shooting and killing spree.
Irish Community Images
In stark contrast to former soldiers who make up a disproportionate high number of convicted criminals in British prisons.
Convictions of any kind against serving British army were an extreme rarity during the troubles, many more British soldiers got away with murder in Ireland, this is according to many witness and evidence.
Not just the British army cowards and murderers of Bloody Sunday.
Irish Community Images
Wright and Fisher were found guilty of killing 18-year-old Peter McBride, shot as he ran away from a military checkpoint in the New Lodge district of north Belfast in 1992.
The soldiers' claim that they opened fire because they thought Mr McBride was carrying a coffee jar bomb was rejected, and they were sentenced to life imprisonment for murder.
However, after serving just six years they were released and allowed to return to the Army.
Mr McDonald, who has been the Independent Assessor since 1997, said in his report on Tuesday that the decision undermined the credibility of Army employment policy.
He said the pair should not have been reinstated, adding that a resolution to this sensitive issue remained necessary in the interest of justice.
"When the Army are dismissing young men for smoking pot, the fact that it has failed to do anything with these two guys undermines its credibility," said Mr McDonald.
"They should not have been reinstated."

MP Jeremy Corbyn said he found it "incomprehensible that, two years on from their release on licence, two convicted murderers are continuing to serve as soldiers in the British Army".
Mr Corbyn added: "Wright and Fisher have never shown the slightest remorse for their crime.
"This is not about politics. It is about human rights and the fact that these two individuals have been allowed to go back into the British Army even though they are convicted murderers.
"This would not be acceptable anywhere else in the world and is not acceptable here.

Fisher and Wright another pair of British army convicted murderers. Like Clegg, they also managed to get off their murder conviction via the British press that portrays all 'their' soldiers as heroes.
These murderers will live with their crimes. No corrupt law system will ever be able to really free them of their cowardly acts of murder.

Salaried and pensioned volunteers for modern commercial wars are no more heroes, no more noble than someone who serves burgers in a McDonalds.
Modern soldiers just tend to ask fewer questions, have more flexible morals than most decent intelligent people, who would refuse to shoot complete strangers, regardless of the pay.

Say no to the Poppy, it only encourages them to justify war.

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