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Is their any real moral or logical difference between Gerry Adams being the supposed head of the IRA and being held accountable for the historic actions of others, and the Queen of England being the definite head of the British army and being held to account for the actions of others, especially when she had personally decorated and honoured?

The Queens noble Sir knights like Jimmy Saville and General Sir Mike (shot list) Jackson. British queen approved terrorism and mass murder in Derry

Yet another example has emerged by chance of the perverse liars personally decorated by the Queen.

Sir General Peter de la Billiere writing in attempt to further promote the bullshit myth of the sas, who in the minds of the too many unquestioning British public are superman brave heroes.

Not what they really are! all too common human beings, usually young ignorant adults led on by angry vindictive bigoted and racist British nationalist politicians, of the very common type seen all around the world, people who enjoy fighting and killing others and getting clapped and honoured by their own twisted communities moral compass.

Some of these supposed super hero sas are suspected and convicted child abusing pedophiles

Writing about the completely innocent Irish schoolboy John Boyle who was murdered by the supposed brave heroic SAS.
what he describes as the Dunloy incident:

Our soldiers had found a weapons cache in a grave, and had staked the site out, lying up for several days and nights hidden in a wet ditch at the edge of a churchyard. One night a man appeared, lifted the top of the grave and took out a semi-automatic weapon, which he pointed in the direction of the watchers. They, thinking that he had seen them and was about to shoot, opened fire and killed him. Clearly the dead man had been a member of the IRA; but he was only sixteen, and probably a low-grade operator. The IRA opened up a vociferous propaganda barrage, producing pictures taken seven or eight years earlier, when the youth was singing in a choir, and presenting us as having killed a choirboy


What actually happened

Four or more British SAS men lie in wait for not even 24 hours, when they see in daylight around 10am, a Irish Boy who they then shoot in the back, riddle him in the back with bullets and all from just a few feet away!
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General Sir Peter de la Billiere, the commander of British forces in the Gulf War and the former director of the SAS lied about the murder!

Mr Adrian Weale, a former army intelligence officer who is now a respected military historian calls the claims of General Sir Peter de la Billiere, a "grotesque misrepresentation of what actually took place".

The reality of what the SAS were made up of and the murders they carried out in Ireland, should have but probably won't, but should have every British person questioning everything they have been told about their supposed brave heroes and not accepting any British military account of news on face value or without serious questions.

Here in England all we are fed is a diet of how brave our army is, how especially brave and superman the SAS are.
How noble and great we are, so great we have assumed the right to dictate to others how to run their nations.

We are never told that our army might contain the most ignorant and under privileged in society, that some enjoy killing people, some are psychopaths and murderers of women and child killers.


As Rory said, we would not know here in England what went on in the past, pre internet.
How could we know when all we were fed is such lies and when the BBC and ITV have never gone into detail about the 'shootings' when the British are doing the killing.
They never seriously questioned at the time any British army account.

Never even knew about this event for instance

SAS murder young completely innocent young Irish boy and then their senior officers invent a press report to excuse and cover up murder

the general's account of the killing of
a young Irish farmer's son, is denounced as a "grotesque misrepresentation of what actually took place". John Boyle, 16, was shot dead by two SAS men who were staking out a terrorist arms cache at a cemetery in Dunloy, Co Antrim, in 1978.
Drawing on subsequent court evidence, Mr Weale reports that the youth had earlier found the weapons and alerted the security services. But he could not resist returning to the site the following day.
In his description of the shooting, General de la Billiere claims it took place at night following a stakeout lasting several days after troops had uncovered the cache themselves. He says of the victim: "Clearly the dead man had been a member of the IRA; but he was only 16, and probably a low-grade operator."
Mr Weale writes: "Almost every detail of this version of events is false: weapons were not originally discovered by soldiers but by Boyle himself; the stakeout had lasted for less than 24 hours; the shooting happened in broad daylight at 10am; and the victim was not and never had been a member of the IRA."


This was taken from a interview with the Father of the Irish boy by murdered by the SAS.
TAYLOR: In such a savage conflict, no love was lost between soldiers and the IRA. But sometimes innocent civilians were victims too. In this graveyard, in the village of Dunloy, an SAS operation ended in tragedy. A 16 year old Catholic schoolboy, John Boyle, was looking at an old family grave when he stumbled upon an IRA arms cache. He immediately ran home and told his father.

CON BOYLE

He said he had been in the graveyard and he had discovered under the fallen tombstone what to him looked like bomb material, a conglomeration of stuff packed under the headstone.

TAYLOR: John's father then ran the police. For a Catholic in a fiercely Republican area to do so in support of law and order took considerable courage.

BOYLE: I didn't want to see any policeman shot, and I did fear that rather than for any other purpose that it would be used against police. I knew the police and knew them well enough and didn't want that to happen, and that prompted me to send them the word.

TAYLOR: The police said they would be in touch, but no word came that evening. The following morning Con Boyle heard shots and rushed to the graveyard. The SAS had shot his son dead.

BOYLE: I came down here and as soon as I got out of the car the two men came out from behind these pillars with rifles and arrested me.

TAYLOR: Two soldiers?

BOYLE: Two soldiers, yes, and at that time we didn't see John, and they made reference to John lying in there.

TAYLOR: What did they say?

BOYLE: They said that the other bastard was lying in there dead.

TAYLOR: That's what they said?

BOYLE: That's what they said.

TAYLOR: John had returned to the graveyard, probably just to check if his find was still there.

Where were the soldiers?

BOYLE: This is where they were supposed to be.

TAYLOR: What, just here?

BOYLE: Just there, yes.

TAYLOR: As close as that?

BOYLE: As close as that. I think about 7.. it would be 7 yards, 6 or 7 metres.

TAYLOR: And what happened? What is said to have happened?

BOYLE: The soldiers said what happened was that John came in here and made towards the gravestone, and their orders was to arrest whoever would come.

TAYLOR: The two SAS men were tried for murder. They said they believed their lives were in danger when John picked up a rifle from the cache and turned towards them. The judge acquitted them but said that one SAS soldier was an untrustworthy witness.

Did you have any apology from the SAS or apology from the army?

BOYLE: No, none at all. Never a word.

TAYLOR: Nobody said sorry?

BOYLE: No.

TAYLOR: Even though you told the police about it nobody said...

BOYLE: No, nor nobody ever said to me I'd done a good job or that I'd done the right thing.

TAYLOR: The tragic death in the village graveyard convinced Nationalists that the Brits were operating a shoot to kill policy with the SAS pulling the trigger.

What was your view of the SAS?

BOYLE: Well it would have been easy to have arrested John. It should have been easy to have arrested John. They didn't do it. I didn't think much about them at the time, but as time went on and you watched what was happening around, the SAS didn't arrest very many.


In other words they purposely murdered people!
And the perverse British Government and media present such murders as brave!

Writing near to time of the the SAS murder of the Irish boy, Irish Journalist Ed Moloney
Boyle had stumbled. onto an Armalite rifle and ammunition in a 1 graveyard near his father's hayfield and his father had informed the police of their I location. When he went to check whether they had been moved he fell victim to a four-man undercover squad lying in wait among the headstones. Two of the soldiers who fired on him were only eleven feet away and all the Army bullets hit him in the rear. The fatal round hit him in the back of the neck and blew the top of his head away.

The army claims that Boyle was shot after he was seen pointing the rifle at their men and after a Yellow Card warning. As a press statement it must rank as one of the most banal ever issued from Lisburn barracks, Apart from being a crazy suicidal action on Boyle's pan if true, how, if he really was aiming the Armalite at the soldiers, did all the bullets manage to hit him from behind? And uninvolved in paramilitary activity as he was, surelv he would have responded to the Yellow Card warning- if indeed one had been given.


Not exactly the image of the brave heroic SAS that the British army have created.
It is a myth, as this shows.

Four British SAS men lie in wait, they see in daylight a Irish Boy, they shoot him in the back, riddle him with bullets and all from just a few feet away!

Boyle had stumbled. onto an Armalite rifle and ammunition in a 1 graveyard near his father's hayfield and his father had informed the police of their I location. When he went to check whether they had been moved he fell victim to a four-man undercover squad lying in wait among the headstones. Two of the soldiers who fired on him were only eleven feet away and all the Army bullets hit him in the rear. The fatal round hit him in the back of the neck and blew the top of his head away.

The army claims that Boyle was shot after he was seen pointing the rifle at their men and after a Yellow Card warning. As a press statement it must rank as one of the most banal ever issued from Lisburn barracks, Apart from being a crazy suicidal action on Boyle's pan if true, how, if he really was aiming the Armalite at the soldiers, did all the bullets manage to hit him from behind? And uninvolved in paramilitary activity as he was, surelv he would have responded to the Yellow Card warning- if indeed one had been given.

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Moloney also noted at the time that contrary to the SAS defeating terrorism or the PIRA, they encouraged more to join in revenge.
This is what happens in the real world, when people see foreigners bullying and murdering their community and lies being told.



Really perverse that the Lying General still sticks to the lies, but no surprise these Generals and most British army may as well be brain washed.


Taken from this which shows they habitually lied and created heroes out of
murder ambush, shooting apples in a barrel.
What ever the British army suggest now, logic and morals say they were at best, no different to the supposed Terrorists!
In reality we know that the British secret services promoted much terrorism, prolonged the troubles.

The Ministry of Defence has blocked the publication of new evidence which is set to reignite the controversy surrounding "non-judicial executions" of terror suspects by British forces in the north of Ireland.
Army censors have suppressed a statement compiled by an Army intelligence officer which describes in graphic detail an SAS action which led to the killing of three IRA suspects in 1991.
The statement was due to be published today in a new history of the SAS and other special forces units, but was withdrawn following a meeting between ministry officials and the publishers.
The book makes a vitriolic attack on Sir Peter de la Billiere, the commander of British forces in the Gulf War and the former director of the SAS, who is accused of misrepresenting the actions of the elite regiment in the north of Ireland in his own book.
The Independent has obtained an account, compiled by an operative with 14th Intelligence, an undercover army unit that works closely with the SAS.
The account describes an SAS operation designed to pre-empt a sectarian IRA attack at Coagh, in County Tyrone in June 1991. It claims that the terrorists were allowed to arm themselves and drive, under surveillance, to the village before being killed in a hail of bullets.
It has been suggested that there was no prospect of making an arrest. The so-called "yellow-card" rules say that security forces personnel should always give a warning unless "to do so would increase the risk of death or grave injury to you or any other person", or they are actually already under fire. In practice, this means that when the weapons are out, the security forces start shooting.
In the original version of the new book, Secret Warfare: Special Operations Forces from the Great Game to the SAS, the author Adrian Weale, said: "If there had been a real intention of arresting the Coagh terrorists it could and should have been done whilst their vehicle was under surveillance en route to Coagh."
In the event, the SAS used a disguised lorry to ambush the terrorists as they arrived in Coagh. Around 200 shots were fired into their stolen Vauxhall Cavalier and it burst into flames. The terrorists Tony Doris, Peter Ryan and Laurence McNally were burnt beyond recognition. The IRA later admitted that the men were members and were "on active service".
The account is in no way critical of the actions of colleagues and describes the ambush as a "classic result".
But Mr Weale, himself a former army intelligence officer who is now a respected military historian, and representatives of his publisher Hodder & Stoughton, were brought before an MoD committee, where the changes were demanded.
The MoD would not comment on the matter but it is thought that ministry officials believed the intelligence officer had overstated the amount of information which the SAS had prior to the ambush.
There may also be concerns that, despite the passage of more than six years, the inquests into the three deaths have still not been heard or even listed.
At the time of the killings, nationalist politicians had expressed their hope that every effort had been made to arrest the men.
Last night, Francie Molloy, a Sinn Fein councillor who knew the three dead men, said: "This shows there were enough troops on the ground to have secured the arrest of the occupants of the car without anyone being shot.
"Instead it was a case of judge, jury and executioner all in one operation."
But the MoD censors have allowed the book to carry its attack on General de la Billiere for his description of SAS activities in Northern Ireland in his 1994 autobiography, Looking for Trouble.
In particular, the general's account of the killing of a young Catholic farmer's son, is denounced as a "grotesque misrepresentation of what actually took place". John Boyle, 16, was mistakenly shot dead by two SAS men who were staking out a terrorist arms cache at a cemetery in Dunloy, Co Antrim, in 1978.
Drawing on subsequent court evidence, Mr Weale reports that the youth had earlier found the weapons and alerted the security services. But he could not resist returning to the site the following day.
In his description of the shooting, General de la Billiere claims it took place at night following a stakeout lasting several days after troops had uncovered the cache themselves. He says of the victim: "Clearly the dead man had been a member of the IRA; but he was only 16, and probably a low-grade operator."
Mr Weale writes: "Almost every detail of this version of events is false: the weapons were not originally discovered by soldiers but by Boyle himself; the stakeout had lasted for less than 24 hours; the shooting happened in broad daylight at 10am; and the victim was not and never had been a member of the IRA."

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The British army under approval of Westminster powers, always covered up or dilute the accounts of when they (British army) are behaving like the Terrorists they claim to be fighting! The British Government and their Queen as sovereign in overall command of army, not only lied, they decorated liars.

There is no question that the British army caused a lot of the problems in Ireland. They encouraged sectarianism and racism when they targeted specifically one side, the Irish!

So it is not just truth but a fact.
The comparison between other scenes of mass murder both here in England and in Scotland, prophetic to say the least.
Dunblane - Hungerford - Cumbria - Derry
are logical.
The scenes of mass murder of innocents do have so much in common, one exceptional difference being the British Queen approved of mass murder of the Irish.
Queen Elizabeth || decorated the killers of innocent Irish people.


Why are people questioning what went on at Crossbarry in the 1920's and ignoring what the British were still doing almost a century later.

When the Irish fighting in their own land, ambush and take out a load of black and tan auxiliary mercenaries who gave a false surrender, the British journalists like Fugly Edwards demand the truth.
But is she interested in the truth? Or promoting her bias?
Does she, ever question the Queen or her supposed heroes!

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