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Serious question
What defines organized crime?
What is and what isn't organized crime?

Same questions for Terrorism
When is it OK to use terror and violence for a end.
Was it right to kill the children and grandchildren of Gaddafi? If not where are the headlines of condemnation, where is Kenny?

Will Obama and the Queen of England decorate these Child and baby killers.
Youngest son of Gaddafi, Saif Al Arab and 3 grandsons killed by NATO attacks.
Gaddafi Saif-al-Arab, the youngest son of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, and three grandchildren have been killed in NATO air strikes.
The house Gaddafi Saif al-Arab was attacked this evening with full force. The leader with his wife was at home with other friends and family, said the Libyan government spokesman Ibrahim Mussa told reporters at a press conference in Tripoli on Sunday morning, AFP reported.

The attack resulted in the death of Saif al-Arab, 29 years old, and three grandchildren Libyan leader, said Ibrahim.
The leader himself (Gaddafi) in good condition, he was not hurt. His wife is also in good condition, (but) other people were injured in the attack, he added.
This is a direct operation aimed at killing leaders of this country, he said.

Explain this act of murder and terror in legal terms. Dress terrorism up how you want, its still terrorism. Ignore one death over another because you have been told it was your side and a approved collateral damage or mistake.
The ones who did it are still children and baby killers.

The line between obvious organized crime, between obvious terrorists and the actions of nations are blurred.
Can anyone seriously question the brutal reality of war and business - Who ever has the most capability for violence wins.
Who ever has the most power rules the roost.

The big business contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the weapons industry supplying all sides. Are they really that much different to what we instantly recognize as organized crime.

Reading a old post here first made me laugh.

Liza Gambino
Irish Community ImagesHow dare you compare the Queen of England with a organized crime syndicate.
A Definition for you ignorant peasants.
Organized crime
Organized crime or criminal organizations, are transnational, national, or local groupings of highly centralized enterprises run by criminals for the purpose of engaging in illegal activity, most commonly for monetary profit. Gangs may become disciplined enough to be considered organized. An organized gang or criminal set can also be referred to as a mob.

A Mob boss starts off just like you and me, they were once just regular humans.
They start out with just a idea - to make from others money by force of or threat of violence and terror.
So the wannabe mob boss gathers around them a few other bully boys, who they call their soldiers. The more successful the mob boss the larger their standing army of bully boys, and by default the greater their potential for violence and terror, and expansion!

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In order to expand their criminal empire and illegal gains, they utilize their physical power or threat of, doing so the Mob Boss can force all those around them , under their control pay a cut, a tax of sorts.
The bigger the cut / tax take, the more the Mob Boss can expand into other territories gaining power.

Once they gain power, the big time Mob Boss can employ their own lawyers and accountants, the best in the business.
These Mob lawyers and accountants can sometimes be so powerful, they can start creating / designing the law, invent what is legal, defining the law itself.

Only once a Mob Boss has such power,can they can be considered a real success. Naturally the Mob Boss will want to keep hold of this power. The Mob retain power by keeping it in house, in the family, handing over power to someone in their own crime family, (you know, exactly like the Mafia of the movies do).

As time passes and generations of criminals pass on, the once effected population tend to forget the rough arm violent thug origins of the crime family.

People tend to forget that the Mobs core assets will have been gathered through crimes, terrorism, drugs dealing, protection rackets, valuable asset theft, mass murder, blackmail, prostitution, human slavery and trafficking, etc, for these crimes will all be covered in time with more acceptable fronts, direct line orders and evidence more difficult to pin down.

The past evil and crimes of the now successful organized crime syndicate, when not romanticized, will be confused or forgotten in the mist of time.
The all powerful Mob now has great influence and power, in every walk of life, including the media.

Every aspiring big time criminal understands this system, they know that crime can pay. If you stick at organized crime, get some luck along the way, and most of all are ruthless enough with the natives. Crime can pay - the evidence is there for all to see.
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People tend to forget that the now-respectable Mobs core assets were gathered and gained via crimes - Drug dealing, protection rackets, valuable asset theft, mass murder, blackmail, prostitution, human slavery and trafficking, etc,
The ultimate aim of any serious big time Mob boss is to make their criminal assets and bully boy army appear not only totally legal, but admirable, honorable.

Have enough power to create or influence laws that allow them to keep all their gains from crimes, and stop any other aspiring thugs getting in on the act.

Otherwise sensible and logically thinking people will now bow their heads and stop in the streets to sight the make over Mob Boss.
Bowing before the all powerful Mob Boss, not in immediate fear, but in a perverted sense of loyalty to this now supposed charitable and honorable dignity.
Kneeling bowing and scraping to the honorable celebrity, a habit that does not tend to fade quickly with time. This curious habit is a direct link to a very real past. The historical fear of the original thug and founder of the Organized crime syndicate, now all legal, above board and made look dignified, honorable.
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So as you see.
How ludicrous to even think of comparing the Queen of England with a every day common or garden organized crime syndicate Mob Boss.
Has the Queen of England directly benefited from past proceeds of crime?
Human Slavery or Drug dealing
for examples?

Of course not! Well OK all that did go on in the past, by her ancestors and connected family and she does of course directly benefit from past crimes, but that is all legalized.
Sort of confusing to you mere peasants maybe, but it is different.

Of course crimes may have even continued in her lifetime, especially in parts of the so called third world that was still directly controlled by the empire.
But! again that was all legal, as she owned it and them.
And of course all the many properties and land titles around the world that she now directly benefits from, OK so most if not all were historically claimed via violence and bribery by street soldiers of past organized crime families.

Still, The Queen of England is legit, official and all legal. She lives in a palace and all the billions and all her foreign possessions are most carefully accounted for by accountants and lawyers, under English law Laws that she puts her name to, so how can that be anything but straight and honest!

Every one of her assets, all the millions of acres of land and priceless stolen jewels and possessions, collected from every part of the globe, all that was simply a gift from the natives. She has the historic papers all legally signed to prove it.
The Queen of England is all legal and proper, the British monarchy a successful and professional organization. Not just a common mafia mob.

Try as they might, the likes of Al Capone and Saddam could only dream of such success.
They are just small time, nickle and dime mobs
Quite different.
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Not sure I find this as funny after the events of this week.
Terrorism and organized crime of nations.
It appears that the worst two strong arm thugs of European history --- France and Britain, are hunting for opportunities abroad again.
Like some retro episode of Starsky and Hutch, acted out by a pair of effeminate rich boys.
Sarkozy and Cameron
This time the pair of old Colonial bully boys, who created most of the worlds current trouble zones, go backed up by Team America World Police.
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The tactics the former American soldier talks of here, the cynical escalation, the looking for excuses to kill and impose power.

Those are learned from Colonial powers of the past, especially the cynical practices of Westminster Crown.
The placing of civilians as hostages on army trucks in Vietnam, the Crown were doing that in Ireland long before. The Norman and the English and later British army tactic in Ireland, was to terrify the local population into submission.
From heads on spikes to Bloody Sunday.
And all the while call the natives the savage and wild!

The show trial of the "enemy" leaders and public show of punishment.

All done before by the Crown in Ireland. The Crown even showed how you could use one side like puppets against another, and when you have used one puppet to defeat number 1 target. If the puppet wants more! turn on the puppet, make them the target using another puppet.

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